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The policework is solid, he says, and goes on to call this case (which again is based on one person’s testimony and somewhat supported by cell phone records) unusually solid. Naturally, Trainum looks at the police records for any inconsistences or lapses, which he doesn’t find.
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One wonders why exactly he’s even here, since no one on any side of this case thinks there was a false confession. Later, Koenig speaks with her own sort of expert witness: Jim Trainum, a former detective, and an expert of false confessions. It takes him nearly half an hour to tell you about something he saw on The History Channel, because he can’t move forward with the story until every single detail lines up-was it Saturday or Sunday? What time of day? What show had been on before, and which one after? Had he eaten lunch? A nightmare, honestly. My dad’s a lawyer, has been for over 30 years, and it has made into an extremely detail-oriented, boring person. As Deirdre Enright might have told her on the last episode, you’re not that lucky. Koenig is very charitable to Gutierrez here, and assumes that her extremely detailed, highly tedious line of questioning is some kind of masterful mental game wherein she’s trying to bore Jay into tripping up. The most interesting thing that happens is when she gets absolutely furious when she thinks Jay doesn’t understand the meaning of the phrase “stepping out,” as in, “stepping out on your wife,” which he totally does, it’s just that she’d asked her question in an extremely vague way.
#Jay serial podcast characters trial
In this section, we also hear a fair bit of Jay’s testimony on the stand at Adnan’s second trial (his first ended in a mistrial), including some extremely boring cross by Adnan’s layer, Cristina Gutierrez. After all, it was Jay who presented the entire theory of the case to the police, voluntarily, even leading them to Hae’s abandoned car. While she’d assumed Jay also did jail time, and seems surprised when Koenig tells her that he walked, this in and of itself isn’t much of an explanation. “For what reason? What was he going to gain from that?” It’s a fair question. “Why would you admit to doing something that drastic if you hadn’t done it?” she asks, very reasonably. Armstrong, as it turns out, found Jay a credible witness. As it begins, she’s speaking with Della Armstrong, one of the jurors on Adnan’s case. Koenig does track him down, which she reveals with a flourish about halfway through the episode. What’s the deal with Jay? Unfortunately for us, the deal with Jay is that he refuses to be interviewed.
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What IS the deal with Jay? Who is this person? Why did he say his friend killed his ex girlfriend? Or, if he’s telling the truth, why did he get involved? He’s been so absent from the show, but so central to its story, that I started to imagine all sorts of things: was he dead? in jail? Had he turned his life around, and busy working as a doctor or lawyer? Or maybe he’s now a shadowy international assassin, recruited by an ancient order after showing so much promise in the case of Hae Min Lee? This episode–finally!–seems offer to clear some of this up. Since the very first episode of Serial, when we found out that the only real piece of evidence against Adnan Syed was a story told by his friend Jay, this has been the number one question on my mind.